Marcus Bachmann Defends Clinic's 'Ex-Gay' Therapy, Claims Tape on Which He Called Gays 'Barbarians' Was Doctored

In a new interview with the Minneapolis Star Tribune, Marcus Bachmann discusses the undercover operation by Truth Wins Out and defends his clinic's gay "reparative therapy" practices.

He also claims a recording of him discussing his views on homosexuality is doctored: "We have to understand: Barbarians need to be educated,'' Bachmann's voice is heard saying on the tape. "They need to be disciplined. Just because someone feels it or thinks it doesn't mean that we are supposed to go down that road.''

Bachmann said that someone must have doctored the recording of the interview, in which he addressed child discipline as well as homosexuality and sex education.

The recording also became a focus of media attention this week, including ABC's "Nightline."

"I was talking in reference to children. Nothing, nothing to do with homosexuality. That's not my mindset. That's not my belief system. That's not the way I would talk," Bachmann said.

Bachmann tried to explain that they don't force treatment on anyone but do it at the client's wish, and that the Truth Wins Out investigator came under false pretenses: He didn't deny that he or other counselors at Bachmann & Associates have attempted to convert gay patients, but he said it is not a special interest of the business and would only be attempted at the client's request.